The Private Show - The Official Thread

Let's conduct business through here and make it official.  This thread is dedicated to putting on a private show in NY with the band. 

Here are the rules I am thinking should apply:
1. You must pay in full, in advance.
  a.  Cost will be per person and based on a fixed number of attendees and total costs.
2. The Guest List is TO BE DETERMINED. (I don't have a good way of deciding who goes and who doesn't yet.)


I just sent an email to the knitting factory inquiring about rates and capacity.  I will let you know what I find out, when I get that info. 

I also just sent in inquiry into Vagrant about what it would take to make that happen.

That's the word so far. 

Caleb - Out.

Re: Re: hmmm

 LimeJello wrote:

 xlindzx wrote:

I don't think it'd be possible to have it this year as collecting the money from everyone would be difficult and stuff...

I think next summer would be good. A year to sort it all out...

Yeah, really.  If by some miracle this actually did happen on either of those dates, it is too soon.  I think a lot of people wouldn't be able to go because of how little time they had to plan.  I think this is a good idea, but it will take more time if it is going to work well.  How frustrating would it be to have this actually work and not be able to go because you didn't have time to plan?

Anyways, I'm all for this idea, but I'm also all for the more realistic idea of everyone meeting up at a show on a tour.  If we do that first, we would be taken a lot more seriously later on when we ask for a private show.  I really like the east coast/west coast idea, like New York/L.A.

wooo

I'd go!

the list

I do admire Caleb's excitement in trying to make all of this happen. However, I don't agree with the idea of a list.. that's just too complex. It should just be a limited number of tickets and when they sell out.. they sell out. The people on here should just get pre-sale options. The guest and people who happen to find out some other way get later notice of ticket sales. How it usually works. I think it's great that you got an estimate on a venue. I also think It would be helpful to know the following before we proceed:  A.)How many people we can round up to make the show a reasonable price,without loosing an intimate feel.B)If the band/label is interested. We can not just buy them.. they have to want to play the show for us. They also need to be available on the the specified dates of the venue. Sept. 6 could run into a tour the band may already have planned. I def. think we need to see how many people add on to the list if we have a list the band and label may take this idea more seriously because they see we are serious about it as a whole.C.) If Vagrant is on board it would help with the whole money handling situation. Sorry if this was redundant just showing support for various ideas...also if we took longer in planning this we may be able to get some sponsors? cheaper tickets...

Well that's just great...

I just read in your other thread that due to a few people bitching and moaning that you're going to stop looking into this.  Dude, Chris would probably love this idea.  It's people like Tom that seem to think they own Dashboard Confessional and need to dictate what type of music Chris and the band play (Tom: I hate Dusk and Summer.  I miss the old stuff for the 500th time) that are the ones shooting you down on this.  If Caleb thinks we can get enough money and interest to have a show and make this happen, it would be an unheard of event and would be the first of its kind.  I've never heard of fans booking a venue to see their favorite band play.  I don't see the problem, and Caleb is working out the logistics of it, not you guys...so stop complaining.<div><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 12px; line-height: normal;">
</span></div><div><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 12px; line-height: normal;">Every time I come on these boards I'm disappointed with the way people react to each other and to the band.  Let Caleb do what he wants to do, and trust me, he will get enough interest and money to be able to pull it off.  My only concern is how easy it will be to actually get into contact with Chris and the band through Vagrant to put on the show.</span></div><div><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 12px; line-height: normal;">
</span></div><div><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 12px; line-height: normal;">For all of those complainers...The Shade of Poison Trees was written to appease you.  Every Dashboard album to date has been beautifully written, especially the one so many of you like to diss...Dusk and Summer.  Chris created Dashboard Confessional so he could do whatever he wanted with his own band and not have to always share reliance on Further Seems Forever on creativity.  Dashboard Confessional is HIS solo project and now HIS full time project.  For those who have heard the Motions, it's once aagain a NEW Dashboard sound.  Get used to it.  Chris experiments, and that is what a solo project is about.  The other new songs are also in a different direction than anything he's done before...just because they're acoustic songs doesn't mean they will be on the album and doesn't mean that they sound like anything on Swiss Army or Places.  </span></div><div><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 12px; line-height: normal;">
</span></div><div><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 12px; line-height: normal;">Chris has gone through life and different experiences...let him make the music he wants to make.  Does that mean you can't have an opinion?  Of course not!  But don't say Dusk and Summer wasn't musically amazing...it is one of the most developed, beautiful, and underrated albums the band has produced.  </span></div><div><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 12px; line-height: normal;">
</span></div><div><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 12px; line-height: normal;">My final point: Caleb...go for this.  I have teachers and friends in school that would donate an organ to charity to go to a PRIVATE Dashboard show.  There are plenty of people in NY and on Long Island that would love to go to a private show and flip you the money necessary to do so.  Don't let a few people ruin your idea...it's original, creative, and NOT impossible to pull off.</span></div><div><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 12px; line-height: normal;">
</span></div><div><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 12px; line-height: normal;">By all means, this just might turn out to be a legendary concert if we can all pull it off.  If you don't want to go, then don't go...no one's making you pay.  Plus all you complainers would be watching the show on YouTube the next day anyway!</span></div><div><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 12px; line-height: normal;">
</span></div><div><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 12px; line-height: normal;">-Chris</span></div>

PS

For those of you who have pondered the meaning of "The Shade of Poison Trees"...it's all you complainers and so-called DIE HARD fans that ***** about any new direction and experimentation in sound.  Chris lives in the shade of Poison Trees, the fans, because in all the fun and good times he has being a musician it is our influence or "shade" that causes him to have to write some things (like that album...) for the "fans."  Was Shade good?  No, it was great.  But the only songs I thought were steps forward for the band were the ones that leapt into a new sound, Chris's real experimenting sound...The Rush, Clean Breaks, and The Widows Peak.

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When is the constant stream of people who ***** and moan about me going to stop?  Do you guys breed?  I've said MAYBE ten words about what Caleb's done, and all of a sudden I get called out.

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i think this show is not impossible to pull off. it's possible to make this so called "private show" to happen.. the thing is i think sooner or later we need a list of people who really is the fans of DC that don't just scream about how hot Chris is.. isn't it the whole idea of this?? a private show?? for me, maybe i can't afford to come to see the show, look at my location. but this is like a dream come true.. a private show for the people on this boards.. that is great.... and don't blame Tom for what he said.. this idea is kinda scary. in a sudden, a chat turns to be a serious project.. but i think "impossible is nothing". especially this band is Dashboard Confessional, band that cares and gives to the fans more than any other band. but if all can't come to an agreement, we should not blame each other's opinion and idea..you can meet someplace in a common DC show..

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I'd love to come, but I can't afford $100 tickets plus the cost of transportation into the city for a day as I am starting college in the fall.

To be honest, I feel like this is elitist in a way simply because of the cost. In my opinion, 400 people doesn't sound any more intimate than concerts that I've been to for $20.

But hey, if you want to go for it, just do it.

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 tom_kriston wrote:

When is the constant stream of people who ***** and moan about me going to stop?  Do you guys breed?  I've said MAYBE ten words about what Caleb's done, and all of a sudden I get called out.

it

should also be in fl where it all started and i wouldnt have to fly anywhere.

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It would be great if it were to happen but this needs a lot of planning/saving. Having it this summer year just isn't going to happen, I mean $100 plus travel and accomodation is a lot of money and I doubt anyone's going to suddenly pull it out.
So its the question of whether or not people are willing to put the effort/money in. Which is unlikely, due to people having to go to work.

You just rushed it too much, whilst we were still pondering if it was a good idea or not.

what?

I am still confused. Tom, is that email you sent around and your plan still in the works, or what?

Wow...

Gotta love these boards sometimes.  Why does everything have to turn into a b*tch fest around here?  Most conversations/arguments end up being like two retards trying to hump a football.

My two cents:  In general, I think this is a noble, if not great, idea.  If any of this does get back to the band and/or its management, it could end up being something that they would help facilitate.  It's not unheard of for a band to hold an "exclusive" show.  Why not this one?  Why not have a single "secret" show somewhere in which a lot of rarer tracks are busted out?  Many of the concerns about timing are probably spot on, but that's just it with some of these things: the spontanaeity  is what makes them great.  If you can make this work, Caleb, then good for you. 

As far as live shows go, this is exactly what this band needs to take it out of its comfort zone for a while.  Play a show without Hands Down, Again I Go Unnoticed, Remember to Breathe, The Good Fight, Vindicated, Stolen, Don't Wait, and Screaming Infidelities.  Follow up the unpredictability of your records (Dusk, Shade, new record) with a show or two that do the same.  In my opinion, another good kick in the *ss will bring this band all the way back.  Why can't it start with a dedicated fan?

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Because a "dedicated fan" would never seek to throw a private show in order to feel like an "elite fan."

Something like this takes planning and time.  You can't just come out and say "I'M THROWING A PRIVATE SHOW AND SOME PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE LEFT OUT IN THE COLD" if you don't have A) a performer booked and paid, B) a venue booked and paid, or C) tickets ready to be sold for a show where the performer is booked and paid and the venue is booked and paid. 

Of course there's going to be CONSIDERABLE interest for something like this.  It doesn't take a rocket scientist (or two effin' threads on a message board) to figure that out.

You can keep canonizing Caleb here, but this is the same guy who said the point of throwing a private show is to be elitist.  If you want to be a part of something like that, then, by all means, go thumb your elitist noses at whoever you choose.  Just don't expect most of us to sit back and take that lightly, especially when we've paid our dues just the same.

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 tom_kriston wrote:

Because a "dedicated fan" would never seek to throw a private show in order to feel like an "elite fan."

Something like this takes planning and time.  You can't just come out and say "I'M THROWING A PRIVATE SHOW AND SOME PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE LEFT OUT IN THE COLD" if you don't have A) a performer booked and paid, B) a venue booked and paid, or C) tickets ready to be sold for a show where the performer is booked and paid and the venue is booked and paid. 

Of course there's going to be CONSIDERABLE interest for something like this.  It doesn't take a rocket scientist (or two effin' threads on a message board) to figure that out.

You can keep canonizing Caleb here, but this is the same guy who said the point of throwing a private show is to be elitist.  If you want to be a part of something like that, then, by all means, go thumb your elitist noses at whoever you choose.  Just don't expect most of us to sit back and take that lightly, especially when we've paid our dues just the same.

to travis

sh*t show is pretty much my favorite expression.

We usually use it when talking about going to Happy Hour. Like .."ooh man  you want to go to the green rock. this is going to be a total sh*t show"

Re: what?

 VindicatedForgery wrote:

I am still confused. Tom, is that email you sent around and your plan still in the works, or what?

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Alright, look... I don't enjoy having my hand forced, but I feel like it would be a dick move to not address the situation.

Let me just start by saying that this sort of undertaking requires a tremendous amount of time and care to plan.  The MAIN POINT of throwing something together like this is NOT to EXCLUDE ANYONE.  The MAIN POINT of throwing something together like this is to INCLUDE EVERYONE.  Throwing this type of show is supposed to BRING TOGETHER Dashboard Confessional's fans.  It's meant to inspire unity and togetherness, NOT exclusivity or elitism.

Do I have something cooking?  Yes.  Is it anything worth talking about at present?  NO.  It's a bunch of plans and ideas which CAN come together harmoniously IF AND ONLY IF the right precautions are taken and the proper channels are taken.

I didn't want to start spouting off my personal involvement because I did not want to appear as though I were more important than I actually am -- just a diehard Dashboard Confessional fan who realizes how amazingly spectacular a show of this nature would be to attend.

I've got ideas, and I've got plans, and they need to come together harmoniously.  'Cause here's the bare bones facts of the matter: there is no performer booked.  There is no venue booked.  There is no show booked to sell tickets for.  In order to pull something like this off, we would need the commitment, both personally and monetarily, from a lot of people that a lot of us have never met.  However, the one saving grace that could pull this thing off is the one thread each of us share in common: our love for this band.  And there IS a RIGHT way to do this, and I think it is PARAMOUNT that we take every painstaking effort we can to see it through properly.

Have patience, have faith, and I can assure you that this show will happen.  I believe that it should happen; more than that, however, and much like all of you... I believe it needs to happen.

So just relax and keep this at the back of your mind.  IF this comes to fruition, it could take weeks... could take months... and, you know, it might not even be possible.  But just take a seat and hope that you might be pleasantly surprised.  :)

gotta get back to work but...

Tom, you are important. It seems you have your head together in all this. Good luck, and let any of us know if there is anything we can do to help out! Caleb, your intentions were great and it is a great idea. I think Tom though has the right idea to go about the proper channels and he does have the connections to do so. I am sure when it is all said and done, it will work out the best for everyone! 

also...

BTW... I think for now this thread should be locked, and forgotten about to let things happen on their own and one day we will all get excited again if and when it does go down.